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Barbed Wire Hazard

Posted by wightdogs on August 2, 2010 at 11:19 AM

Following seeing some people removing ragwort from fields in Ryde between:

  • Nicholson Road and Smallbrook Lane, North and South
  • Great Preston Road and the railway line, East and West

We have learnt that the IW council are renting the land out and it is  being fenced in in order that New Forest ponies can be kept there.



This has been a popular recreation area with local people for many years, and is one of the few remaining dog exercising areas close to Ryde.


 

Obviously local people arent going to be too happy about it but the council consider that they are the landowner and although they may be permitted to lease the land we are getting reports that this area is not being professionally fenced in, rather makeshift barbed wire barrier is being installed including adjacent to Public footpath R 55, specifically the section which runs from the railway crossing in the direction of Nicholson Road and Great Preston Road.


 

Barbed wire causing a nuisance to the highway (which includes Public footpaths) is covered by the Highways Act 1980 section 164

 


 

Section 164. Power to require removal of barbed wire


 

(1) Where on land adjoining a highway there is a fence made with barbed wire, or having barbed wire in or on it, and the wire is a nuisance to the highway, a competent authority may by notice served on the occupier of the land require him to abate the nuisance within such time, not being less than one month nor more than six months from the date of service of the notice, as may be specified in it.


 

For the purposes of this section -


 

(a) the competent authorities, in relation to any highway, are the Highway Authority and also (where they are not the Highway Authority) the local authority for the area in which the highway is situated;


 

(b) 'barbed wire' means wire with spikes or jagged projections, and barbed wire is to be deemed to be a nuisance to a highway if it is likely to be injurious to persons or animals lawfully using the highway.


 

(2) If at the expiration of the time specified in the notice the occupier has failed to comply with the notice, a magistrates' court, if satisfied on complaint made by the authority that the wire is a nuisance to the highway, may order the occupier to abate the nuisance and, if he fails to comply with the order within a reasonable time, the authority may do whatever may be necessary in execution of the order. and recover from him the expenses reasonably incurred by them in so doing.


 

(3) If the local authority who are a competent authority in relation to the highway concerned are the occupiers of the land in question proceedings under this section may be taken against them by any ratepayer within the area of that local authority and the foregoing provisions apply accordingly in relation to him and to the authority as they apply in relation to an authority and to an occupier of land.




However bear in mind that the council haven't addressed the dangerous fence adjacent to Public Footpath R103, a short distance from this location, which has been in this condition for two years and despite a member of this website receiving compensation from them after his dog was badly injured.


 

Please remember that if you or your dog sustain injury due to barbed wire, even if you are trespassing, you may have a claim against both the landowner and whoever is leasing the land.

No doubt there are plenty of personal injury solicitors out there who I'm sure would be more than willing to consider your case on a no win no fee basis.


Please pass on your complaints/concerns to the council, and feel free to copy them to this website as we will be compiling a dossier of evidence which will be available to anyone who sustains injury.


customer.services@iow.gov.uk

County Hall

High Street

Newport

Isle of Wight

PO30 1UD


UPDATE - 3 August 2010


Here are some pictures of the state of play so far. The map above shows the area which has been fully fenced in so far as a darker shade of orange. We are unsure whether the triangular field to the right, which  the houses along the Great Preston Road back onto, has been fenced off as yet. ( UPDATE this triangular field has now also been fenced) But the other fields had open access today apart from the barbed wire installed at the ponts shown in the photos,



This is looking towards the Post Office sorting depot in Nicholson Road from the first field having crossed the railway line show at point "A" on the map above. We assume this was an arson attack and we do not know if it is connected to the fencing of this land, however from the people I spoke to there is a great deal of unrest and resentment over the way this has been handled, and the pathetic and dangerous attempts at fencing.



This is taken a bit further on along Footpath R 55 Showing the makeshift stringing of barbed wire at point "B" in the map above. Note the trailing barbed wire on the ground adjacent to this Public Right Of Way. When horses are coming the cowboys are never far behind.

I spoke to someone who said when he saw them placing this barbed wire here he had pointed out to them that it was dangerous, he ended up being told to F**K off.

I injured my leg on the barbed wire shown shortly before taking this photo (see below)



 


This was taken at point "C" in the map above it shows the corner of the field where it emerges onto Public Footpath R54 which runs alongside the railway line. As you can see once again we have makeshift Barbed Wire loosely slung across. Remember this is IW council owned land and assumably they have terms in the lease that fencing must be of a professional standard, especially adjacent to a PROW.



My leg after walking into a loose strand of barbed wire on public footpath R 55  shortly before taking the photo two above this one.  After cutting my leg I had moved the strand of barbed wire back off the footpath prior to taking the photo.


UPDATE - 4 August 2010


Further photos which have been emailed to us this morning.



This shows a section of fencing that has been installed at point "D" on the map above. The person who sent it to us informs us thet he was walking his dog in the field on the other side of this fence, where there were no notices saying he couldnt do so and the entrance where he came in was unfenced. In fact the situation was unchanged to that of  recent years when access hasnt  been barred. Whilst walking along  his dog ran under this fence and he had to follow in order to retrieve his dog which is when he took the two photos he sent us. As you can see this is hardly stock proof fencing.




This photo was taken at point "E" on the map above. This clearly illustrates how the fencing on this council owned land is being bodged. There are old pallets included here in this "budget" approach and behind this they have stacked up cut branches of blackthorn and brambles. Very professional!


Incidentally blackthorn has vicious thorns which are well known for causing wounds which turn septic. I consider whoever is placing cut branches of blackthorn are doing so in a spiteful act likely to cause nasty injuries.


This is also being done at entrances to these fields alongside footpath R 54 which runs parallel to the railway line.


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3 Comments

Reply Pete and Dixie
10:59 AM on August 03, 2010 
I went down there this morning, I crossed the railway line and went up the footpath towards the post sorting office in Nicholson road. this hasn't been fenced off but there has been a fire at the top of the field and all the grass and bushes behind them have been burned. I left this field at the top right corner and there was no fence or notices at all. I walked along the next field also not fenced and came to a locked gate at the entrance to the middle field of the 3 on your map alongside Smallbrook lane. When i reached the gate a bloke with 2 dogs appeared on the other side and started shouting at me and accusing me of being a coward?!? he then continued with shouting that I wasn't allowed in this area at all. Then he said that people are allowed there if they had dogs on leads. Then he started going on about people had broken down the fences they had put up, and had knocked some woman over?!?
I asked him who he was and why he was going on at me and he said he was working for the new owners to tell people not to use the fields. I asked to see his identification and he didn't have any. So I said he could say what he liked as I wasn't trespassing as there was no fence or notices to tell me I wasn't allowed to use the fields even if I had of been trespassing that would be a civil matter not a criminal one and as he had no ID he could just be some nutter as far as I was concerned. He then started shouting about cowards again and saying that he had been born on the island and cowards weren't allowed to use these fields.
I guess he was what strikers would call a scab, willing to be paid a small sum in order to abandon any principles he might once have had.
I left him to his rantings and went down to the bottom end of the next field running alongside the railway line and although this field wasn't fenced either someone had bodged up one of the entrances with some barbed wire. very dangerous.
Anyway the only field fenced off at the moment is the middle one of the 3 adjacent to Smallbrook lane on your map, but watch out for the nutter!
Reply webmaster
06:15 PM on August 03, 2010 
This from Wikipedia
Horse care:
Barbed wire is often seen in some parts of the world, but it is the most dangerous fencing material that can be used around horses, even in a large pasture. If a horse is caught in barbed wire, it can quickly become severely hurt, often leaving lasting scars or even permanent injuries. Horse management books and periodicals are nearly universal in stating that barbed wire should never be used to contain horses.

Also from Wikipedia
Cowboy:
In English-speaking regions outside North America, such as the British Isles and Australasia, "cowboy" can refer to a tradesmen whose work is of shoddy and questionable value, e.g., "a cowboy plumber".Similar usage is seen in the United States to describe someone in the skilled trades who operates without proper training or licenses
Reply coralee
08:36 AM on January 22, 2012 
FINALLY more people who give a ****! I feel as if I've been walking through treacle for so long! I have been accused of sensationalising the situation, causing mountains out of molehills...and being a bit of a gobby cow (which I admit I am!) but, I'm not shouting about it to hear my own voice - this WHOLE area is riddled with uncared for barbed wire - and an accident waiting to happen - and if I don't do anything about it, and sit by and wait for that accident, what kind of person am I? Wish I'd found this forum sooner!

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